Kim LaCapria (42:00)
Yeah. No, like no government please, thank you. No, I have said that I'll know it's heaven if Bernie Sanders is president.
Yeah, but are there rules?
Carolyn Clapper (42:27)
So I've been shown that there are rules sometimes. Like I think even communicating sometimes some things is like, like they're bending the rules. Sometimes it feels like they're bending the rules. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like they're not supposed to, like, I don't know. Like for a while I was like, are you supposed to be talking to me or whatever? You know what I mean? I don't know.
Kim LaCapria (42:38)
Yeah. No, I feel like that sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah, because,
because they're not talking to everybody. No, that is, I've wondered about that too. I mean, I think the communication obviously, you wouldn't have been recruited if they, you know what I mean? They wouldn't have tapped you, which we'll get to in a future video. So you just have to stay tuned for that one. No, mine does too. It doesn't look red.
Carolyn Clapper (43:03)
Yeah.
My nose gets red when I cry, so I'm sorry. like, I literally just have to
explain to people, I don't know, I look like I got hit with a hot bag of nickels. But it's because I was thinking about like all the people who inbox me and I got emotional because I was thinking about like everybody who's missing still that I haven't gotten to. And I know that that sounds really silly that some people are maybe I don't know. But I think if you tried to like understand it's like
Kim LaCapria (43:21)
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (43:33)
Like every time that I locate somebody and then people find out and then everybody's like, my God, she located this person or she located that person so she can locate everyone. And I want to, that's the thing is I want to, I want to, but I know that that's impossible because there's like thousands and thousands of people missing.
Kim LaCapria (43:44)
Yeah.
And it's not just time, she
reaches a point where you can't keep reading. Like I've, we have reached that point in readings where you just kind of like fall over and fall asleep. You know what I mean? Because it's like, there's not an unlimited amount of energy on your side for this.
Carolyn Clapper (44:03)
Yeah.
It takes a lot of focused energy when I like find somebody and when I locate somebody. And it's like, it's like remote viewing on steroids, you know, it's way beyond remote viewing. Because when you remote view, you're just looking into spaces. And I can do that all the time. It's not it takes little effort. But like remote viewing.
Kim LaCapria (44:23)
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (44:34)
and being pulled around to specific areas and communicating with spirit at the same time. So it's just like all of it all at once. So it's hard to explain. I'm gonna have to find words in my book to articulate it better than I am right now. And I will, I think I write better than I speak, but yeah. Thank you.
Kim LaCapria (44:39)
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a lot.
You're doing really well. Because that's one of the things that we're we were talking
about is a lot of these answers aren't going to end. One of the things we don't want to do is a lot of people will talk about this stuff and they give a very 100 % covered answer, but it doesn't really land because we know that people are different. You know what I mean? So I we wanted to kind of give you guys more, you know, realistic information. Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (45:11)
Well, this is just, can't, here's the thing. I can't
be not authentic. Like I'm not gonna BS anybody. So like, if I don't know something, I'm not gonna pretend like I know it. And I think like, I don't really appreciate when people do pretend like they know everything. It's like really fricking annoying. like.
Kim LaCapria (45:15)
Yeah.
Yeah, and it really bothers
grieving people. It upsets grieving people more than no information. Because it feels like a lie.
Carolyn Clapper (45:30)
It bothers me. But I guess I could be considered a
grieving person. I've had a lot of laughs. I mean, I'm no different than anybody else except for that I can see and speak to dead people. But anyway.
Kim LaCapria (45:36)
No, I know.
I think
grieving is, yeah, it's like a state that you're kind of always in if somebody really important to you, you know, if they die when you're young. The one, there was the one about animals, which I think we can get to later. No, but like, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's always there in the background. It's just, becomes part of you. But that also, because there's the question about animals, but the one after that was, so if people here are cruel and they cause a lot of pain to people, and let's say,
Carolyn Clapper (45:50)
I don't think you're always in it. I just think that like you're living, but then it's always there kind of in the background. Yeah.
Kim LaCapria (46:10)
They cut off a lot of aid to Africa and a whole bunch of people die. Are there, you know, I'm not talking about any specific, I just pulled that out of the air. Are there consequences for people?
Carolyn Clapper (46:14)
Thank you.
Nobody specific.
Kim LaCapria (46:24)
So a lot of people ask, and we got this question a lot, like we got it in the comments, we got it on Facebook, people want to know, and I don't think it's necessarily, basically is there a natural consequence for if you're a person that inflicts a lot of cruelty? Okay.
Carolyn Clapper (46:36)
There is, there is, okay. So when you cross over, so if you don't pay for what you've done here, that's really, really awful, then you will be addressed with it when you pass. Like this is not, you can't get away from it, no. There are consequences.
Kim LaCapria (46:56)
Yeah, that's one of the reasons actually why
when me and Carolyn have both said like the first time we talked, we were both kind of like, oh, we're obviously going to have to do something together. But one of my first motivations, like in the very, very beginning was, you know, I had a platform. I was a skeptic as a fact checker. And when we talked about this subject, I was like, yeah, obviously the afterlife is what are you five? So part of the reason why I wanted is
Carolyn Clapper (47:20)
You
Kim LaCapria (47:21)
that exact reason because I need to undo all of the misinformation that I did like or I spread about that because I was really wrong and I was really convincing about it. So I made people like question their ideas and stuff and that's fine, but I was wrong. So I have to correct the wrongness. So like that's what I'm trying to do, but people... Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (47:39)
Well, that's just part of being human like we're all I
think taking accountability when we grow and we can admit when we've been wrong I Mean takes huge strength and it's also very humble
Kim LaCapria (47:49)
Yeah.
Yeah, it was important to me. wasn't even like, it
wasn't like, like I wanted to correct it, you know, because I was like, this is really important information. It changed the trajectory of my life. It changed how I viewed things. And, you know, I think if this information is available, people who want it should have it. And that also, so like the question that was after that was, because, okay, so that made me think of the one that we got on Facebook too, because I can't find it on the list right now. I'm trying to remember where I am on list, but people, there was the one that we got about how
Carolyn Clapper (48:00)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Kim LaCapria (48:21)
they perceive, how can, when they see us, what do, what do they see? How do they see us and how do they perceive us? And is there a filter was part of the question. Like, can they, do we look filtered to them?
Carolyn Clapper (48:34)
Oh, like, is there a filter of what they walk into and what they look at? Or is there a filter, like, do they look different to us, like how spirit looks different? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's such a cool question. Oh, that's such a neat question. So I would, my answer, because I'm sourcing from spirit now, actually, because you're asking me that, and I don't know the answer right off the top of my head.
Kim LaCapria (48:39)
Like, does no, like, like, is there a filter that makes us look when they look at us? Do we look pretty? Yeah.
Let's think.
Carolyn Clapper (48:57)
But so, because I've never really thought about that. So what I'm getting back right now is that there isn't a filter. Actually, our bodies are the filter. We're seeing who we truly aren't. I guess how I could say is like, like this is a mask. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like our bodies kind of mask our inner self, true self. So like, they're seeing us for who we truly are.
Kim LaCapria (49:16)
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (49:23)
Like we don't even see ourselves for who we truly are. It's kind of like that theory, like we are all spirits in bodies. So that's like, if you go with that theory, it's like they're spirits and they're evolved and they're accessing your spirit in your body. So they're seeing you as who you are, naturally and organically and genuinely and like without.
Kim LaCapria (49:23)
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (49:50)
They see you as you, like they see, they see your body. Okay, how can I, they do see your body, okay? They can see you, they can see your body. I guess I should like, this is such a complicated and complex answer. So they see who you genuinely are, who you truly are. They see your thoughts and feelings and like your emotions and what you're going through and they like, they can hear your thoughts. And then.
Kim LaCapria (50:01)
Yeah.
Anyway, can
I just, she's, when she says that, is so literal because I can't tell, how many conversations have we had in the past month where before I had a chance to tell you what I was gonna say, he told you everything and you told me before I told you. Like, he pulled those things out of my head. Like, just background thoughts.
Carolyn Clapper (50:24)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then people would probably argue, well, like, did he pull them out of your head or did Carolyn pull them out of your head? But either way, like, whatever, I got the information. And it looked and it came through him to me. visually, it came through as him telling me the information. So I didn't feel like I was sourcing it from her. Like, I didn't feel like I was picking a crop or something. Like it was something I was like trying to grab. It just came through Joe telling me. But
Kim LaCapria (50:34)
Yeah, I mean
Yeah.
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (50:54)
So that's, mean, I guess that could be argued, but either way I was getting the information, yes. I don't know what we're talking about, sorry. yeah, but they do see us. right. Well, here, think about it this way. Like remember, we'll like use you as this example, but like when I was first starting to read for you and Joe, he showed, can I share something? That's like, okay.
Kim LaCapria (51:00)
Yeah, and it's like, but we're talking about the way that they see us because.
Carolyn Clapper (51:22)
So he showed me that like you kept a journal that was kind of like that you had decorated the outside of the journal, right? And he walked me through everything that was on the outside of her journal, like like everything that she decorated her journal with, like he was telling me and then he showed me afterwards. But it was like all these really unique things, because right, like, I mean, it's Kim. Like, there's a collage, yeah.
Kim LaCapria (51:31)
Yeah.
yeah, and then I showed you, yeah.
Yeah. And there was like, there was a collage there was a bunch of things, yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (51:50)
And so, and he had told me like, my God, you know, she put on this lipstick, you know, before she sat with me. So he told me, like he took me through the whole thing of what Kim did and like what lipstick you were wearing and how you took it off and how you put a different lipstick on that was like new. And he described the color and he described what she was wearing. He just, told me like what she had put on first and how she had changed her outfit because she was going to be meeting with him potentially.
And like she dressed for the occasion and it was so sweet. And so because she put time and like care into what she was wearing for Joe, he wanted her to know like, hey, I see you. Like I saw you do that for me and you looked gorgeous before that. And now you look way sexier. And like, then he let her know what things were, what his favorite thing was for her to wear.
Kim LaCapria (52:48)
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (52:50)
And he described that and people will take me through, gosh, like, yes, they see your space. They see what you're wearing. see, they just see, they can access all of it. Yeah.
Kim LaCapria (53:01)
think what are the reasons?
Yeah, because people ask this too, I think. And I think the way the context that came up in is with there are a lot of young widows. I mean, that's the people that I talk to most. And young widows are people typically like under the age of 65. Yeah, but I think the fear is they stopped aging, but we don't, right? So when I'm, you so they're like, are they going to ever look at us and be like, oh, they got older? I think that that's probably not a factor. But you know what I mean?
Carolyn Clapper (53:14)
I'm so sad.
so sad.
that's so fair, yes.
Yes, you are robbing the
cradle. And I'm just kidding. I'm just playing with you. I mean, I know it's a really hard and sensitive topic and I and I shouldn't joke about it. But it is funny because like here they would naturally joke with you about it. But yeah. No, you're never less attractive because they're they're seeing your soul. seeing you. Look.
Kim LaCapria (53:32)
That's what I always say. I always say that, but it's like.
Yeah, but that's like, because you know, people are afraid of
you
Yeah, but the way that I described that once when it came up, yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (54:01)
Okay, how I put this life and these bodies and everything look really different over there. The whole idea around bodies and in our life here looks very different over there. So the kind of judgment or fears or whatever that we have here, those don't cross over with us because you're evolving. yeah, like when, when they look at you, even if you've aged, even if they died when they were 25.
Kim LaCapria (54:07)
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (54:29)
and you're now 83. Like you're still their love. And when you cross over, this part of your body is gone. So like you're part of your person, your soul, this part goes away. So it's like, no, the age thing, no, that doesn't matter at all.
Kim LaCapria (54:31)
Yeah.
You like the way?
Yeah.
Yeah, because the way that I
have the way that I've described that to people and we've had because we discussed this in in I'm in a group of people like me and we discuss this a lot. And I said it would be like if you were doing yard work all day and you came inside and you had twigs in your hair and you're covered in mud. It's not like your boyfriend would be like, you forget it. I'm done. You know what I mean? Because it's a temporary state, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because that's you know, we don't we don't abandon people like, know, because it's a temporary thing.
Carolyn Clapper (55:05)
Yes, said no man ever. But yeah, also no woman.
Kim LaCapria (55:14)
And then also there was, okay, yeah, so this is the other one that we were talking about. Are they still themselves? And that was like the T story. I can't even remember if we got into it. I was saying he was arguing, but are they still themselves?
Carolyn Clapper (55:23)
my God, I know you guys
want them to be better than they were here, but they're totally them. And some people do improve.
Kim LaCapria (55:30)
Wait, okay, so also other, Carolyn,
other mediums say that spirits never feel anger or frustration on behalf of us or just in general, but like, is that true? Do they not feel any emotions?
Carolyn Clapper (55:45)
I mean, no, like it's totally opposite. Like everybody that I talk to has emotion. mean, they were like, yeah, like they feel and you know, no, they're not just like these emotionless beings that are, yeah, no, no. I mean, like they come through with like their quirks and they come through with their sense of humor or they also.
Kim LaCapria (55:54)
Yeah.
in their, yeah, I have said to, I think.
Carolyn Clapper (56:14)
Geez, I've had people come through that have gotten jealous like honestly and like But they also have an understanding that like you can't visually see them and so like they have access to you don't have to them which they also can empathize with so like Yeah, no, I that's interesting to me that like certain proclaimed mediums would claim that people have no
Kim LaCapria (56:19)
in.
Yeah.
very strongly,
like they insist on it. Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (56:46)
Wow. Well, and I
think I don't, I'm not a fan of like knocking people down or stepping on people to get ahead or to sound better.
Kim LaCapria (56:55)
No, I know.
We're just talking about information.
We're not talking about specific mediums. We're just saying like informationally because yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (57:02)
No, I just want to, I want to address this, though. I
believe that if that's what you think and that's what you're seeing, you're just not as good as you think you are. Because you're not accessing the levels beyond, you're just not, you're not able to dig beyond what you're seeing in front of you. Yeah. Well, I think, okay, so again, I haven't really studied this field. It's just I've learned from working it.
Kim LaCapria (57:19)
It's like platitude.
You've
been working it for 15 years. You're like, well, I know I've only been doing readings for 15 years.
Carolyn Clapper (57:32)
Right, I work it.
But I mean, I'm being taught as I go. And but I don't study and I don't read books on it. And I don't watch the shows on it and stuff. So I mean, like, again, I will just say that I'm ignorant to the field right now until I'm done with my book. Outside of my own experiences and people that I've talked to, and I do read for other mediums and stuff like that, too. So I have heard some of this before and
Kim LaCapria (57:37)
No I know. Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (58:02)
Yeah, I think just like some people can, you know, there's different levels of ability. And, you know, I'm not saying that, okay, I'm kind of saying like, I'm right and they're wrong. So I really do think that if they're not able to access that stuff, that is not like, no, your loved one has no emotions anymore. no, it's what they should be saying is I'm sorry, I'm not getting anything about that. Like, they shouldn't blame spirit or, or, or, or, or make a blanket statement saying,
Kim LaCapria (58:07)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (58:32)
No, like nobody see it. No, it's just no, you're not seeing it. Like that's a mistake on your end. That's okay. It's okay to not be able to see past a certain point. It's okay to only be able to offer this much of something that you can do. It's okay to have limits. You know what I mean? And it's okay to keep learning. Like when we have limits, just keep learning. Like keep practicing, keep doing, keep at it. You know what I mean? And just keep going.
Kim LaCapria (58:40)
Yeah.
Yeah.
started because
Carolyn Clapper (59:01)
Right.
Kim LaCapria (59:01)
you had to flex in the middle of that reading and that was like a whole bunch of other stuff opened up because of because you were able to be like okay I this is the first time I've gotten this question let me look you know what I mean you weren't like no no you have to it's your it's your thing now
Carolyn Clapper (59:15)
Yeah, let me right like
here. I'll, I'll talk about myself in that way. Like, I didn't know that I could do medical readings until I did them. Like, I was driving in my vehicle with my kid in the car and this is not safe. And I'm not saying that anybody else should be like this because this is really stupid. But a friend of mine from high school, I didn't know her mom. never knew. Actually, I didn't even know she had a mom. I didn't know if her mom was dead or alive. We never talked about her mom ever.
Ever. Never met her, whatever. She lived with her grandmother, you know, in high school and in college. So like, I just didn't know a mom existed here for, clearly everybody has a mother, but you understand what I'm
Kim LaCapria (59:55)
Yeah.
Yeah, you had no concept of her mom.
Carolyn Clapper (1:00:00)
Right. Thank you. So I was driving and my son was in the car with me and he was little. And this girlfriend called me and she was like, my God, Carolyn. She's like, can you please, she knew about my gift because I had read for her. And so she knew the evidence that came through me was really, really high and she trusts me. And so she was like, my mom's really sick. I need your help. And I'm like, wait, your mom? Like who? Right. And she's like, yeah, my mom's really sick. Just can you please.
Can you just tell me what's happening? Can you like medically read her? Like can you see what's going on? And I was like, girl, I don't know. I'm like, I can't, I don't know. I don't think I can do that, you know? And she was like, can you try, please? It took somebody I love, like that I hold dear to my heart, like kind of begging me while I'm driving. She was like, please, please, please, please, please just try, just try. And I was like, okay, okay. Like just, just like shut up for a second. she didn't tell me anything about it. She was just like, please try and tell me, cause I don't know what the fuck is going on with my mom.
Kim LaCapria (1:00:43)
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (1:00:59)
So I closed my eyes for a was driving. Like I do not recommend this thing. Like it just, I closed my eyes for a second and I was able to like literally just a second, but I was able to see her mom in my head and then, and she's alive. And then I was able to, they took me straight to her bladder and they showed me, you know, her bladder had very dark urine and it was like brown. And they showed me, you know, her bladder, like there was bacteria.
They showed me the bacteria in her urine, which I know sounds really strange, but I could see the bacteria. I knew that it would show up as like white and stuff like that. it's like, anyways, they showed me the bacteria and then they showed me the bacteria moving into her vesicular system, her veins. Okay. And then it started to spread. Then they showed me a clock and the clock had the number three, it pointed to the number three. It didn't mean three o'clock. was like three, I asked them three o'clock or three hours, three hours. And then they show me emergency room.
And they were like, like, get her there within three hours or she's going to die. She's sepsis. And then they showed me there's different ways that they showed me, but they showed me broad spectrum antibiotics, entervenous, da da da. So I told her, I'm like, this is what you need to do. Okay. Your mom has a bladder infection that's gone sepsis. You need to get her into the ER within three hours or she's going to die. You need to tell them that they need to put her immediately on
broad spectrum antibiotics and dah, dah, dah. She's like, how am I, how, like, how can I tell them to do this? And I'm like, I don't know, girl, tell them that you see things weird. Like I told her, take the credit that I'm like, you tell them that this is your instinct. Like you don't have to tell them about me or tell them about me or I don't care. Just like get them to do it. So she did it. She got her mom in there. She told them about what came through me and they listened. And then they tested her. They put her on antibiotics.
Kim LaCapria (1:02:41)
Yeah.
My doctor did too.
Carolyn Clapper (1:02:58)
Yeah. so in,
Kim LaCapria (1:02:59)
Like my primary, I mean.
Carolyn Clapper (1:03:01)
right. yeah, right. About your heart. Yes. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Okay. So, which is really interesting. So yeah, like, wait, why the hell did we get on this topic?
Kim LaCapria (1:03:04)
After my heart attack, again.
We're talking
about medical mediumship and we were talking about the, I tried to remember the original.
Carolyn Clapper (1:03:17)
right, right. No, so
I don't always know what I can do. The point is, is like, I didn't know that I could do that until I tried. And then all of sudden I could do it. And then it just happened over and over. It's just like, then I was just, I could do it. And then I realized what depth I could go into. It wasn't just like little things like that or quick emergencies like that. Like I could literally focus my energy and I saw other beings behind me when I was doing that, which I came to know are doctors. Okay.
Kim LaCapria (1:03:21)
Yeah
Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (1:03:45)
So I work with doctors in spirit. was just somebody needed to push me. So I think like if you assume like you know everything already and like you've read books and they've told you this, so this is how it is.
Kim LaCapria (1:03:45)
Yes.
Yeah.
This is actually good advice
for developing mediums too, because I don't know that anybody tells them that, like, don't assume you know and keep looking, you know what I mean? Who knows what people say when they're training, but if somebody is a developing medium, that's probably great advice because I saw it happen in my first reading and obviously the medical thing, you she does, and we were talking, because medical readings, they can't be faked. Obviously if Carolyn was, you know, faking anything and you know, that person,
None of these medical things would work out, but medical readings are really interesting for that reason, but you wouldn't have probably done any of them if it weren't for that one time where you were like, okay, I'll try, I'll try. You know what I mean? Like that's interesting.
Carolyn Clapper (1:04:36)
Or maybe, yeah, or maybe something else,
likely somebody else or something else would have still pushed me in that direction because I do a lot of medical readings now and I work with a lot of doctors and things. So it's like, something would have pushed me, but it happened to be Jill, you know? Right. Right.
Kim LaCapria (1:04:49)
Yeah, we see that that happens. So like we see that happen all the time with us, though. It's like no
matter what, you just get pushed towards one thing.
Carolyn Clapper (1:04:57)
Yeah, like the outcome
would have happened no matter what somehow, but it was Jill that pushed me into seeing that, you know? So, but yeah. So I'm just saying like, like don't assume that you even know your own, like where your own cap is or your own ceiling is with your abilities or anything. Like I don't like the platitude thing. I think it's really lame.
Kim LaCapria (1:05:05)
Yeah, but that also...
Yeah.
Yeah,
could be, and it could be, like people could be self-limiting because of that, because like, you you, you developed all by yourself and a lot of people, they have the intent to do it.
Carolyn Clapper (1:05:24)
Yeah.
Or if people are like, if they accept mediums telling them that and they're like, well, then this is just how it is. That's sad too. Yeah.
Kim LaCapria (1:05:37)
Yeah, no, that is true because that's happens.
That's happened with us too, where I've told you something that a medium has said and you're like, wait, what? Because it was like, there's like little things like that. And there was a question that was...
Carolyn Clapper (1:05:47)
Yeah.
Ooh, you know the other
thing that is like a huge pet peeve of mine that I just can't stand.
So like getting in real close, like you're right here. But like something that I really don't appreciate is when certain like certain, you know, proclaimed mediums say that they will, they refuse to work in darkness, that they only stay in the light. That is such a crack of, you know why? Well, I just want to say, you know why? Because
Kim LaCapria (1:06:12)
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. I was going to jump to a different question.
No, finish.
Carolyn Clapper (1:06:27)
life is a balance between good and bad. And if you are unwilling or unable to access or unwilling to access either side of that, why are you in this field? Like what a cop out. Anyway, what now? That really is a pet peeve of mine.
Kim LaCapria (1:06:41)
Yeah.
No, I agree. But that also,
it doesn't really work well with people who are actively like really grieving because that first of all, they're existing in a dark place. So you know what I mean? So they feel rejected off the bat and then all their dark feelings and you know, so it's like, you can't believe that in. Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (1:07:00)
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's like, no, I only work
in the light because I'm just too good for the dark. It's like, it's like, girl, bye. I don't think so. You are not above pooping and you are not above darkness or sadness. I'm sorry, but you're not. It's just a cop out.
Kim LaCapria (1:07:10)
Yeah, and then the person who's grieving is like, well, you what about me? Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like even like in the Bible, like, and I'm not,
I'm not a religious person, but I did go to Catholic school and you know, Jesus had dark moments. Like I remember that he was like wandering around in the desert or something. I mean, you know, I, I, my catechism happened very early. So you know what I know? Cause like I was, I was telling my mom, like, cause I was so young, I got kicked out of Catholic school when I was in fourth grade. So like, I'll remember.
Carolyn Clapper (1:07:34)
my gosh, wandering around in the desert. Girls.
Yeah, I wonder why. I'm just kidding.
Kim LaCapria (1:07:47)
for a lot of reasons. But my mom actually, she said, no, I pulled you out because they weren't being nice. But one
Carolyn Clapper (1:07:47)
Wow. We can fix that in editing. Just kidding.
Kim LaCapria (1:07:53)
of the reasons that like the, so like I'll, like with Mary Magdalene, you know, they were like, yeah, well, Mary Magdalene had a lot of boyfriends. So that's like how I understood her until I was an adult, you know, because we didn't know, and then also like with Saul and Paul, he got into a lot of fights. He was a mercenary. You know what mean? They couldn't tell us that when we were in first grade. my understanding is, but that.
Carolyn Clapper (1:08:03)
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Kim LaCapria (1:08:14)
There was one of the questions that was on the list was about, because I was going to go to the one about how they find you, but that goes to the one about evil spirits. And we talked about this. And one of the questions that we got was whether darkness actually exists in the afterlife, like, you know, outside of religion, outside of everything else, are there dark areas or dark energies or anything like that that, know, because people do say it's all love and light. So like, where does everything else?
Carolyn Clapper (1:08:36)
I think that,
yeah, and I want to continue this. have to go for now. I'd like to continue this. Do you mind, like, continuing it on our next episode? Yeah. We're at about, like, an hour and a half, but I do have to bounce just because it's late, and I have to go.
Kim LaCapria (1:08:42)
Yeah.
No, we can, we're talking about doing a part two. Yeah, let me just see if there's, wait, hold on. Yeah. Can I just
ask, can I ask you the last question, the one that you thought was not, because there are a ton more, but, because I think this one is important for everybody watching. Can you annoy a spirit by thinking about them too much?
Carolyn Clapper (1:09:04)
No. Never.
Kim LaCapria (1:09:06)
And is my husband hanging out with hot girls in heaven? No, I know because he's hanging out with you. No, I know he always is. But yes, so you can't. So even if a person thinks, does it annoy them when you think about them?
Carolyn Clapper (1:09:09)
Ok, yeah, is always. He's like a chick magnet. No, but it's like, but it doesn't.
No, it doesn't annoy them. when you think about them, I feel like it actually like makes them feel good. Like it's kind of like. Turn it around. Wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no, just turn it around. Like, could they ever think about you too much?
Kim LaCapria (1:09:28)
okay.
Because I'm not going to stop.
because I don't know but the answer is no in any universe however I don't know what when we think about them do they get like a notification is it like getting hit in the head is it like do they forget that you know what I mean
Carolyn Clapper (1:09:51)
Well, think about it this way too, Kim. So sometimes like, so I can see spirit and everything. It's not like every time I like spirit stops by that I see them. Sometimes I just think of them and I know that they're here. So in a way, it's like, when you think about them, it could be them coming to you as well. So they might have thought of you first. So it's like,
Kim LaCapria (1:10:15)
Yeah, people have said that. Yeah, okay, cool.
Carolyn Clapper (1:10:19)
It's kind of like the chicken or egg theory. It's kind of like when you're thinking about calling somebody and then they call you before you have the chance to call them. So, I don't know.
Kim LaCapria (1:10:28)
Okay, that has,
not only does that happen with you all the time, but sometimes like when I'm in Zoom or I'm talking to somebody, I'll say your name and then your chime, because I have a special time for Carolyn on my phone and then. Yeah.
Carolyn Clapper (1:10:37)
And they do feel you and sense you when you're thinking
about them really, really strongly. If you're having a passing thought, maybe not, but it's like, yeah, like when you're intensely thinking about them or whatever, you're like calling them basically, you're calling them into you. yeah.
Kim LaCapria (1:10:49)
Cool, okay, yeah, because that's the other thing before we, because we have to close out the episode. And
one thing I asked Carol in the beginning is they can always hear us, right? So like, if you're missing your person, whether it's your mom, your dad, whoever it is, you can always talk to them, they can always hear you, right? I just want to double check that, like, for sure. So like, right now...
Carolyn Clapper (1:11:08)
Yeah, it's like when you're thinking
about them really strongly and you're putting their energy out there and you're imagining them and you're thinking about them, like you're saturated with them, you're calling them essentially.
Kim LaCapria (1:11:20)
Yeah, that's so cool. Okay. And then also,
so we didn't get to all the questions, so we'll probably do a part two, but can you guys please, if we missed anything in the comments or if you have some questions, yeah, we'll definitely do a part two. But in the comments, leave any questions that you have, things that we missed, or if there's something where you're like, wait, go back to that, because in the second part, we can go into that stuff too. So we can do that. Yeah, and I don't wanna keep Carolyn up all night. So we're going to put this episode up and please let us know, because we wanna answer these questions.
Carolyn Clapper (1:11:27)
We will, do a part two.
sorry.
Kim LaCapria (1:11:48)
I mean, for Carolyn, I think it's because she gets them and also because she cares about everybody. And for me, it's because I know what it's like. you know, I still, think, I mean, because I have Carolyn, we're really close friends. It's a little bit different, but I still torture myself with questions and it's been eight years. you know, so like, don't think you're weird. Okay. So thank you for watching us, you guys. Yeah. And please, please let us know what more questions you have, because we only got to a few of them because they had some long answers and they were really interesting.
Carolyn Clapper (1:12:02)
Yeah. No, you're not weird. Totally normal.
Kim LaCapria (1:12:13)
And yeah, so thank you for watching and please like and subscribe because we need to hit all of YouTube's metrics. And yeah, thanks. Bye.
Carolyn Clapper (1:12:16)
Thank you. Yes, please share with your friends and subscribe. Love you. Bye.